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Intolerance or Election?

There is a whole lot of hoopla about a Muslim community center in lower Manhattan dominating the news, the blogs, and the political zeitgeist of America for several weeks now.

One of my friends aptly calls the whole fiasco horseshit… and he’s correct… but I think it is manufactured horseshit.

I don’t think people are really all that offended by any new house of worship, or religiously sponsored community centers… I think this is a very carefully targeted and manufactured wedge issue meant to simultaneously depress mainstream American voters so they have lower voter turnout numbers this November 2nd while exciting the lunatic fringe haters so they are encouraged to vote because they are angry about something.

If everyone votes, it completely diffuses this sort of insanity.

Just like many other manufactured distractions, the facts don’t support the claims and assertions of the talking heads.

It’s not a mosque. It’s not that close to the former world trade center. Sufis (the sponsors for this community center) are generally not terrorists. Americans largely don’t really care in any case. Most of the blowhards talking loudest about this have the least facts (which is typical also for these manufactured wedge issues). Move on America… and remember to vote in November, when you don’t vote you let the most politically motivated on all sides have their say unchallenged. Be the voice of moderation and speak your mind.

Update: turns out I am not the only one who finds all this hoopla suspect, a friend pointed this out: Salon article “How the “ground zero mosque” fear mongering began”

Update 2: on a more humorous note: Outrage Over Plans To Build Library Next To Sarah Palin

{ 6 } Comments

  1. Rob Lesan | August 19, 2010 at 9:09 am | Permalink

    Well put. I will certainly do what I can do ensure everyone else looks the issue with this kind of clarity.

    Thanks!

  2. J. Tyler Ballance | August 19, 2010 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Of course, most Americans support religious tolerance.

    However, the Muslims around the world view the construction of this mosque as a victory center. At this point it doesn’t matter if the version of the story in the media has been propagandized all out of proportion to reality. The fact that the Muslims watch our media too, and now view the mosque as a symbol of Islamic victory and an in-your-face symbol against America, is why the damned thing should not be allowed to be built.

    Surely, there are many who want to take the road of tolerance, but when some group takes advantage of your tolerance to build a symbol to taunt your people, you have to make a decision as to whether or not you want to allow them to rub our nose in their, “horseshit.”

  3. snolan | August 19, 2010 at 5:22 pm | Permalink

    J. Tyler Ballance, can you site any evidence for this purported view by many Muslims around the world? Frankly it smells like someone is having you on.

    There are already mosques, and strip joints, and bars in that neighborhood of New York City.

    This particular community center is being specifically built to bridge the divide by some moderate Muslims (in this case Sufi) who often get targeted by extremists in other countries.

    The whole thing is being deliberately blown out of proportion by election engineers.

  4. snolan | August 20, 2010 at 6:17 am | Permalink

    I am unwilling to sell my liberty because of fear-mongering from politically motivated factions.

  5. J. Tyler Ballance | August 26, 2010 at 1:27 am | Permalink

    Most of us agree with the idea of enhancing our liberty, but allowing a so-called, “Victory Mosque” just down the road two blocks from the WTC site, would give the Muslims who are aching to stick it to Americans, a major propaganda win.

    This is not a property rights issue. Otherwise, Mosque operators across America would be silent if their neighbors decided to build a pork sausage factory next to their mosque. We have zoning laws to provide for the maintenance of standards of acceptable buildings and uses for the community.

    Sure, some of you want to play the standard, tolerant American role, and let the bastards roll right over you, once again; to let them use our laws and sense of fair play to bludgeon America on the world stage, all the while they are advocating a backward religion that is based on hatred and murder of those who happen to not share their belief.

    Wake up! This isn’t about “rights.” In their religion, you don’t have any rights. Their own believers are treated like lambs awaiting slaughter. Yet, you want to approach this with, “Well if we are nice, then they will be nice to us…” Well, that is just baloney. Muslims all over the world were shown dancing and partying when the WTC was attacked. Now they want to rub your nose in it and declare their, “victory” over the “Great Satan” by building a mosque near the site of their murders.

    Site examples, you ask? Go back and listen to every interview of a Muslim since 911 and try to find any who actually condemned the murders. You will hear plenty of admissions that the attack was horrific, a few who say it was not in accord with “Islam” and almost none who condemn the murderers, or their followers.

    When you listen to commentary about the proposed, “Victory Mosque” few Muslims have taken the opportunity to publicly condemn terrorism, homicide bombers, or the incredible contempt for Americans that is demonstrated by attempting to place a Mosque so that the, “”Peaceful followers of Muhammad” can laugh in our faces while their attend services in their, WTC Victory Mosque.”

    Of course, the politicians are making this into a political football. Tip O’Neil always said that the way to win elections, is to see where the people are headed, then get out in front and lead them there. In this case, Americans are angry because most can clearly see that the construction of a mosque so close to the WTC is an obvious act of contempt directed by the Muslims at America and Americans.

  6. J. Tyler Ballance | August 26, 2010 at 1:30 am | Permalink

    Most of us agree with the idea of enhancing our liberty, but allowing a so-called, “Victory Mosque” just down the road two blocks from the WTC site, would give the Muslims who are aching to stick it to Americans, a major propaganda win.

    This is not a property rights issue. Otherwise, Mosque operators across America would be silent if their neighbors decided to build a pork sausage factory next to their mosque. We have zoning laws to provide for the maintenance of standards of acceptable buildings and uses for the community.

    Sure, some of you want to play the standard, tolerant American role, and let the bastards roll right over you, once again; to let them use our laws and sense of fair play to bludgeon America on the world stage, all the while they are advocating a backward religion that is based on hatred and murder of those who happen to not share their belief.

    Wake up! This isn’t about “rights.” In their religion, you don’t have any rights. Their own believers are treated like lambs awaiting slaughter. Yet, you want to approach this with, “Well if we are nice, then they will be nice to us…” Well, that is just baloney. Muslims all over the world were shown dancing and partying when the WTC was attacked. Now they want to rub your nose in it and declare their, “victory” over the “Great Satan” by building a mosque near the site of their murders.

    Cite examples, you ask? Go back and listen to every interview of a Muslim since 911 and try to find any who actually condemned the murders. You will hear plenty of admissions that the attack was horrific, a few who say it was not in accord with “Islam” and almost none who condemn the murderers, or their followers.

    When you listen to commentary about the proposed, “Victory Mosque” few Muslims have taken the opportunity to publicly condemn terrorism, homicide bombers, or the incredible contempt for Americans that is demonstrated by attempting to place a Mosque so that the, “”Peaceful followers of Muhammad” can laugh in our faces while their attend services in their, WTC Victory Mosque.”

    Of course, the politicians are making this into a political football. Tip O’Neil always said that the way to win elections, is to see where the people are headed, then get out in front and lead them there. In this case, Americans are angry because most can clearly see that the construction of a mosque so close to the WTC is an obvious act of contempt directed by the Muslims at America and Americans.

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