Wow, I was off by 4%

April 23rd, 2008 | Politics |

I predicted a Clinton win in Pennsylvania, but only by 6% a month ago… so the 10% margin this morning is disappointing. I blame ABC News and that horribly moderated Republican talking point trap last Wednesday night. Television audiences are still huge compared to newspaper, radio, blogs, and campaign rallies. Even though it was a sham debate by partisan hacks, and even though a record number of people realized it and complained loudly on ABC’s own comment collection site, an astonishingly large number of people watched it and were influenced by the Rovian tactics played out by the so-called moderators.

It is clear that Democratic candidates who want fair debates should refuse to debate anyone unless they are moderated by decent moderators with a proven track record for staying focused on the pertinent issues… like the League of Women Voters. The League has an fantastic record, and only people afraid of a fair debate would refuse their moderation.

The over-vaunted “double digit” win for Clinton does not really change much. The bad news is this slug-fest of an election will go on through at least May 6th, and possibly longer now… the good news is that the primary will go on through at least May 6th and possibly even longer now.
Yes that is both good and bad. The bad is it means more free ride time for John McSame. The good news is that more state’s voters get to participate in the most important primary season in my memory. It is good news for the people of Indiana and North Carolina, and possibly good news for West Virginia, Kentucky, and Oregon. Possible decision points are now May 7th, May 21st, and June 4th… (those are each the day after primary elections with a fair number of delegates, though none have as many as PA does). Obama is still the man to beat because he has accumulated 1,719 delegates versus Clinton’s 1,588.

According to the New York Times there are 227 delegates between now and May 6th, an additional 164 delegates between then and May 20th, and an additional 110 between then and June 3rd. That is only 501 remaining delegates in the remaining states. Either candidate would need 2,025 delegates. Do the math… It is very unlikely that Clinton can win this on delegate counts, she’d have to win nearly all the remaining ones. It is now dodgy wether Obama can win this on delegate counts, he needs only 306 more; but that means averaging 61% of the remaining contests… the Pennsylvania disappointment probably means that this is going all the way to the August convention. It means that an endorsement from Edwards really matters.

One thing that baffles me is how can so many allegedly “blue collar” workers vote for Clinton? That is clearly a vote against their own economic self-interest. Edwards should be their candidate of choice, and I can see them not being enthusiast either Clinton or Obama, but the news is saying they are opting for Clinton. I am scratching my head in confusion.

Interesting comparison, probably invalid for dozens of reasons, but… over 2,300,000 registered as Democrats and voted in yesterday’s primary election… For a primary, turnout was very high; but several workers were saying it was like a general election. Was it?

2004 Presidential Election per Wikipedia:

State: Bush: Kerry: Nader: Badnarik: Peroutka: Cobb:
Pennsylvania 2,793,847 2,938,095 2,656 21,185 6,318 6,319

That means that in the 2004 general election, more people voted for John Kerry than voted for both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama yesterday. It means that more voted for George Bush than voted for both candidates yesterday. It means that despite registering nearly 600,000 new Democratic voters this cycle, the number of people who actually vote Democratic in a general election was under-represented. Some sources say that 52% of registered Democrats voted, if that is true then there must be roughly 4.5 million registered Democrats in Pennsylvania at this time… where were the other 48% yesterday? Where will they be in November?

I think Pennsylvania is a pretty solidly Democratic state either way (which is good news).

 



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  1. 1
    Ben said,

    on April 23rd, 2008 at 8:33 am

    What I don’t understand is why the mass media has begun to buy into Clinton’s “more qualified, if not better supported” rhetoric. They were all gung-ho about Obama for the longest time, but now are almost anti-Obama, and for why? Because his old preacher, upon retirement, made questionable comments in general about the state of race in the country? Sheesh… it might be death by association, but the association is clearly the media’s, not Obama’s…

    I’m annoyed that the margin was 10 points… when I went to bed last night, CNN indicated just an 8 point margin… And did you see Clinton on the talk circuit this morning? Sheesh… you’d swear she was actually in the lead… which is, of course, what she’d like you to believe… somebody needs to end her campaign… it’s damaging to the Democrats, damaging to Obama, and helpful to McCain… who, btw, has now gone off on a side-line feel good tour, since he doesn’t have to deal with any competition… he’s been making tons of ridiculous statements, and they’re not getting much, if any, coverage… *sigh*

  2. 2
    snolan said,

    on April 23rd, 2008 at 10:04 am

    I feel it is important that everyone remember that:

    Obama has the popular vote by a wide margin (~500,000 votes).
    Obama has the delegates by a wide margin (~150 delegates), but not enough to win… yet.
    Obama has the momentum (victories in most states, Gallup and Pollster trends).
    Obama will be the Democratic nominee, and will be facing McSame in November.

    It is frustrating that we can’t get on with tearing McSame apart yet, but Clinton is, and always has been a Republican. I am unsurprised. She has more in common with Reagan and Bush senior than she does with most Democrats.

  3. 3
    snolan said,

    on April 23rd, 2008 at 11:30 am

    So it turns out to only be a 9.2% win for Clinton, despite what the MSM is reporting…

    Pennsylvania Returns with 99.44 % reporting, give:

    Obama 1,029,672 (45.412645673%)
    Clinton 1,237,696 (54.587345327%)

    Simple arithmatic says there is only a 9.174699654% difference…

    We can round that up to 9.2%

    I wonder what the remaining .56% of precincts will report…

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